On Amitav Ghosh

Ghosh A new interview with writer Amitav Ghosh has appeared in Guernica magazine. Parts of it reminded me of a saying by Plutarch: “It isn’t always in the most distinguished achievements that men’s virtues or vices may be best discovered: but very often an action of small note, a short saying, or a jest, shall distinguish a person’s real character more than the greatest sieges, or the most important battle.” The interview, between the lines, sheds light on Ghosh’s India, the audience he addresses, and his social vantage point. Consider his claim:

“People often talk about identity. It’s not one of the things which really is washing about in my head at all. One of the reasons why is because anybody who’s lived in India knows that India is incredibly, incredibly diverse.… That’s one of the wonderfully liberating things about India; it lets you be exactly who you want to be.”

Umm, really? Or is that the privilege of a tiny social class—his own? Ghosh laments that lit critics in America “think primarily about identity … I mean from the age of like fourteen onwards when they first read Catcher in the Rye or whatever, they’re taught that that’s what literature is about. So that’s what they think it’s about.” Really? A novelist—and former social anthropologist—scoffing at the lens of identity in understanding the lives of others?

It’s quite possible that the above remarks didn’t come out sounding right in the interview form, so perhaps we should cut him some slack. But he then makes other half-baked remarks: “What we see today in [sic] that nation-state is fading to be replaced by these enormous diasporic civilizations. India is one, China is one …” These two are fading nation-states? On the contrary, they have grown more nationalistic in recent decades. A bit later, the interviewer, Lila Azam Zanganeh, asserts that Ghosh is “constantly compared to V.S. Naipaul.” By whom? I have not heard that myself, nor can I think of any justification for it. Ghosh, promptly contrasting himself with Naipaul, explains:

“I was very lucky in that unlike Naipaul I was from a large country—a large, increasingly self-confident country. Often I think the weaknesses of Naipaul’s work come from the fact of his having grown up in a circumstance where there were very intense small conflicts. Where he, I think, could never really claim Trinidad for himself, and never felt enabled to claim it for himself. But I felt very much that I was looking at the world as an Indian. So I think that was certainly one of the huge differences.”

Why is that a source of weakness in Naipaul’s or anyone else’s work—and not strength? What differences does Ghosh speak of, if not of identity? His luck, I submit, lies not in his being from a large country, but from a privileged class, whose members have the vantage point to behold the world “as an Indian” (though when asked directly, he says there is no such thing as “being Indian”). His feel-good invocation of an “increasingly self-confident country” (presumably without “intense small conflicts”?) must resonate with his disaporic fans in the West, who he claims form 60-70% of his audience at readings. They frequently take pride in their country in ways that resemble chauvinism more than self-confidence. Who but a member of his social class can coolly say, “As late as the nineteenth century every Bengali learned Persian; it was normal! We’ve always learned Sanskrit.” Every Bengali? Sanskrit? We? What slice of India does Ghosh confuse for the whole?

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6 responses to “On Amitav Ghosh”

  1. Whatever else I’ve felt about Ghosh’s novels, I’ve always been irked by his bumbling, tone-deaf handling of dialogue, so I guess it’s not surprising that he wouldn’t interview well.
    I think the problem you’ve identified, Namit, goes even farther than privileged social class, to the business of an audience primarily other. Regardless of who shows up at the readings, it sure feels like writing for a western audience in that it seems always to be ‘representing’ and with a top-down agenda rather than coming from those “intense small conflicts” to signify something larger.
    In his shoes one would almost have to disavow identity to avoid its traps. But then the trap snaps shut regardless. Sad irony.

  2. Class, Class, Class. Always that. Who do the Poor vote into Office then Mayavati and such other populist Regimes? Why is that Peoples of Kerala and Gujarat progress and not the Peoples of U.P.? It is because of better Governance. About the Author, I do not know him, personally; but to suggest his Worlde View is based primarily, if not completely, because of his posh background is, ironically, as much as over-statement as the one for which you accuse him. Gandhi was from a privileged background too. He stood with the Poor of India too. [Notice I did not say ‘for the Poor’, lest you think I am being patronising.] What you are doing is nothing Productive. If, really, you feel so passionately about the Condition of the Poor of India, then go do something about it, instead of bickering at People who shall never read your Brain-Manure.

  3. That’s right, Zara. It’s interesting that Ghosh can be so sensitive and alert to colonial/imperial misrepresentations of India, yet so blind to its close parallels within India. Is it because it’s harder to see misrepresentations from above? To tell a Western audience that India “lets you be exactly who you want to be” is extremely thoughtless and whitewashes large swathes of human experience. We should expect more from our leading writers, though the comment above suggests that not everyone might share this viewpoint. 🙂

  4. Yes, what you have quoted here from him gives a very different view of his personal ideas, compared to the learned, thoughtful, sensitive ones that appear in his novels and essays.
    “it lets you be exactly who you want to be.”
    This makes me smirk.
    A male is not allowed to grow their hair long in my social class (a vague term to represent my middle class Brahmin, communist family in a provincial town). I couldnt have had female friends, let alone girlfriends, let alone from another caste, or religion. I of course couldnt have been gay. I couldn’t have chosen to study what I wanted, or do what I wanted. I am not allowed to take alcohol, and of course nothing “higher” than that.
    One is mostly expected to cut the hair short, find a white collar job with a middle class family, do arranged marriage from the same caste whether you are straight or gay or whatever…
    A few years back, he had claimed that P. Sainath is the only journalist in India who’s covering the Other India.
    All of these very naive views for his stature.

  5. @Namit, I was quite shocked to see Ghosh say something as boneheaded as this in an interview. His more recent novels do show a degree of understanding of caste and class issues and at least some sort of an effort to portray them. Considering his journalistic and anthropological background, the only explanation I can come up with for what he said, is that in spite of being aware of the reality of India on an academic level, he still equates his personal experience with the “Indian experience”. I guess this is why most higher caste/privileged groups refuse to see the extent of injustice that caste/gender bias causes in Indian society.

  6. ‘What slice of India does Ghosh confuse for the whole?’- is the wrong question. Ghosh has bhadralok roots and it is plausible to say that this comprador class is ‘Indian’ in that, though of entirely indigenous ancestry, it was closely allied to a hegemonic power which had ‘India’ in its name.
    To my mind the more interesting question about Ghosh is ‘were the bhadralok as stupid, ignorant and bigoted as he suggests’?
    In his early books, there is always this deeply Bengali moment where the guy drops the pretence of being a cultivated intellectual to show a humourless, thin-skinned, provincial mind-set. For example, the guy is in Egypt and loses his rag when the Muslim peasants keep going on about how smart the Hindus are to burn their corpses so as to try to evade the examining Angels. Most Indians- Punjabis especially- would appreciate this as a great running joke. The Bengali becomes infuriated. That’s funny not just to us Indians but also to Egyptians for whom ‘al hindi’ tends to mean a simple minded sort of person.
    I used to think these little touches showed Ghosh was in touch with his bhadrolok audience- at least those older than him- who still had a visceral sense of superiority over (at least uneducated) Muslims and were always way less urbane and well read than they fondly imagined.
    More recently, however, Ghosh goes in for exoticism mixed with witless Political Correctness of the American sort. This enables him to make extraordinary discoveries, for e.g. that White Colonialists were racist towards black people they had conquered.
    Ghosh, as author, clearly is ‘Indian’ in the broad sense that Indians are stupid, provincial and way less intelligent and well read than they themselves believe. What is puzzling is his lack of self-awareness and the utter absence of humour. After all, people from India- as opposed to Indians- delight in drawing attention to their own foibles and living up to a caricature of themselves. Perhaps, the sad truth is that the Bengali bhadralok, uniquely in India, alone has no sense of its own absurdity.

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